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Tuesday, 29 November 2005
U.S. Soldiers want out of 'meat grinder' of Iraq
Posted By Reasonable Veteran at 7:39 PM
 

Watching Richard Perle on C-SPAN this weekend talk about how high morale was in Iraq, how the media wasn't reporting on the positive news, it isn't difficult to see why those who lend him the smallest shred of credibility might grab on to that shred. His voice was so calm and soothing. So rational.

But madmen are often effective precisely because they actually believe their own fantasies.

Steve Gilliard has a first-hand account of a well-placed conservative soldier who paints a very different picture. The troops want out.

My brother-in-law [an active-duty Major, decorated Army Ranger, and West Point graduate with more than 15 years in and about to ship out to Afghanistan] thinks that Murtha is 100% right and that we should pull back in Iraq to forward operating bases in Kuwait, if not leave entirely. Even more interesting, my brother-in-law says that ALL of his officer friends in the 10th Mountain (a real front-line outfit) and around the military agree as well.

My brother-in-law is a gregarious, well-connected guy and literally has hundreds of well placed friends at the rank of Major and above. He says that ALL of his miltiary friends feel Iraq is a "mistake" and a "meatgrinder" that serves no purpose anymore if it ever did.

Watch as every pathetic argument is shot down in flames by an actually soldier and conservative.

On debating withdrawal: "My brother-in-law laughed off as ludicrous the claim that troops are somehow undercut by people debating the usefulness of their mission and questioning whether to pull out of Iraq."

On Bush asking for no sacrifice: "He also is outraged that Bush has asked the country to do nothing and downplayed the war effort that Bush claims is somehow so important."

On our Iraq strategy: "From what he hears, there basically is no overall strategy, just a bunch of LTs, CPTs, and Majors making it up as they go." Read the whole thing and email to friends... (Steve Gilliard)

Evan Derkacz is a New York-based writer and contributor to AlterNet.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/28794/

 
Posted By Reasonable Veteran at 7:39 PM
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6 Dec 2005
Send an emailECS
trops and "Homeland:-- what's wrog with this picture. wars are ALL fought by humans who beloing to some "homelamd." why is our "homleand" sacred and theirs is not? Every time i hear "homeland secutiry" i think of Deutschland Deutschland uber alles..." WE ARE ALL worhty. goverments and religious leaders cause these wars.since the dawn of history. this time OURS srtarted it! we have more than egg in our face. Homeland my kiester!
1 Dec 2005
WrestlingCoach
If one would just look at the numbers of new and old veterans who are voicing their concerns about this war and its affects they would change their tunes and get our kids out of the war and back to the homeland. The administration is using this war for things beyond the war on terrorism.
1 Dec 2005
Send an emailHomer D Vet
Many military "experts" have told this administration and its cronies that the Iraq war was ill-timed. ill-planned and the events of the last two years have proven them right. Now, what is the publc going to do about? I am tired of people who have no real concept of what our "boys and (now) girls" are going through in that wasted effort to shore up control and to influence the distrubution of oil in the region. The commander in chief (what a misnomer for this clown) has lied and decieved the American people in order to maintain his misguided messaniac "calling" in the region. But the funny thing is: there is no real effort ot remove this guy and/or to replace him. Why, look at the alternative.
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