12 Nov 2005
ECS
Tim wrote (quoting the POTUS) "That young Americans must never again be sent to fight and die unless we can win.”... Win? how do we define "win?" Morally we have already lost. Black ops are not new. what IS new is technology which makes it impossible to keep dirty secrets like Abu Grabass and Gitmo. But since when is America's moral compass about "winning"????? That says it all. God help this great country-- we must... "win!" (Nebver mind that there is no winnogn ANY war against a concept, i.e. terrirsm, poverty, drugs...) (and we are now beating up on a small impoverished country that did not attack us.) No more are we the Big Guy who helps the Little Guy-- we are now the Bully of the "First" World. i don't know which is sadder. the fact that this, our commander in chief, is so blind to the fact that the rest of the world now looks at us in horrior and consternation -- or the fact that we have suffered irreperable harm not only to our world image, but our national heart and soul. God help us all.

11 Nov 2005
Steve Osborn
In my Veteran' day 2990, A remembrance, I put a mistake in my e-mail. It is corrected here, so if you should wish to contact me, please click on this reference. Steve Osborn

11 Nov 2005
Steve Osborn
Veteran’s Day 2005 A Remembrance My memory of war starts with World War II. I was just a boy during the war and it was largely an adventure to us, but I remember the quiet pride and the sadness in the eyes of the increasing number of mothers who hung a gold star in their window, never knowing if my mom might be next and my big brother gone. The wars, great and small, were legion in the last century. My dad lost his leg in the Phillippines in 1913. WW-I, was the “Great War to end all wars.” An entire generation died in the trenches. One of my uncles, who lied about his age, was the first, and youngest, soldier from Oregon to die in that war, at the battle of Chateau Thierry. The memory of man is short and only twenty years passed before another generation was thrown into the meat grinder to stave off domination by Hitler’s Nazis, Mussolini’s Fascists and Imperial Japan’s expansion. We had hardly buried the dead and recovered from the shock of the realities of nuclear annihilation when East and West went at it in Korea, a war which still goes on, the fighting finally just stopped by mutual agreement. The cold war and the covert wars went on, then along came Vietnam. Since then, the “little” wars have gone on all over the world, like bush fires in the California hills, consuming human and material resources. In 2001, we saw the tragedy of 11 September and its aftermath. Then we watched another war in Afghanistan, which has been swallowing up armies since the time of Alexander the Great. We are in the midst of a horrendous war in Iraq. Once more the toll, on someone, is enormous. Amongst the dead may be the man who would have discovered the cure to cancer and other deadly diseases, the composer who may have surpassed Mozart or Brahms, the playwright or poet who might have succeeded Shakespeare, the statesman who could have brought about world peace or the person who might have been able to end world hunger. Those are the might-have-been’s. The reality is the millions of humans who have died, fathers, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, fighters and civilians in this past century, all with the dream of peace and human dignity before them. Yet, with the new millennium, war still goes on around the world. Let us give pause in remembrance of those who died, often alone and forgotten, victim of mine and booby trap, sniper fire or disease and infection, whose resting place is unmarked save for perhaps a little more verdant growth where they have nurtured the soil. Let us give pause in remembrance for those who survived, maimed in body or soul by the atrocity of war. Let us give pause in remembrance for those who survived to carry on, with nothing but memories, of which they do not speak. Let us give pause in remembrance for those whose lives ended abruptly, without warning, on 11 September. And those of all nations and beliefs who continue to die by war and terrorism. Let us give pause and reflect, that we might carry out our lives in such a way that love and tolerance might overbalance hatred and bigotry in the scales of life and the dream of peace might become a reality, so those we remember today did not die in vain. Steve Osborn