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Sunday, 10 February 2008
When is a Combat Vet Not a Combat Vet?
Posted By Doug Nelson at 10:58 AM
 

Infantry, Armor, Artillery, and Cavalry (Airmobile these days) are called Combat Arms because they engage in combat. Add to these Combat Engineers, Explosive Ordnance Disposal,  Riverine Patrol and other functions involving being shot at and we have a sizable portion of our military forces.

As a vet rep, I file claims for men and women with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), a topic I explain at length elsewhere. The claim usually goes quite well for any vet for whom the mental health professionals at the Vet Center or VA Medical facility diagnose PTSD, AND who have the Combat Infantryman Badge, Combat Action Badge (or Ribbon for USMC and Navy), the Purple Heart, or a combat award.

The problem is with Viet Nam conflict and later vets who do not have these combat credentials. The Combat Action Badge was not awarded by the Army until the mid 70's. This means that  veterans of artillery, armor, riverine patrol, combat engineers and many others have no tin badge or other tangible evidence that they were in combat. They will be required to describe an incident in detail that caused PTSD (a stressor statement). For too many, it is impossible to remember exact dates, places and the names of dead and wounded. The VA makes an effort to verify these stressors  as stated, but, because of time and personnel contraints, cannot put much time into any one case. Too often, legitimate combat cases go uncompensated. I was told recently by someone in the VA adjudication process, that unit morning reports and after-action reports are NOT checked.

For 'Nam vets like me, and others in non-combat units, the detailed stressor is probably an appropriate requirement. I must document that, for example, a fellow soldier was killed or wounded by hostile file in my presence. This song-and-dance, however, should not be imposed on any combat veteran.

A suggestion I have put before Congresspeople, and one the VCS should consider making, is that NO veteran who was in combat who has a disability should go uncompensated.  Service in artillery, armor, riverine patrol, helicopters crews, and especially medics and corpsmen should be legally presumed to have been combat service. There should be NO discrimination between infantry and the other combat arms in a matter as important as this. Combat is combat, whether it was a remote firebase, clearing roads of mines, driving mined roads through ambushes, or patrolling rivers.

For active duty and recently separated vets, BE SURE you are awarded the Combat Action Badge or Combat Action Ribbon if you were in fact in combat. This needs to extend to the Water Purification company that lost people in Saudi Arabia to a Scud, anyone affected by an attack on a convoy, the folks in the mess hall attack and anyone else in such a situation.  I am working with a Cavalry soldier from Iraq who, because of an administrative error, was not awarded the CAB. I am also working with a Navy Corpsman from Viet Nam who has no verification on his D214 that he served in combat.

This is injustice, pure and simple. We cannot recognize some combat and not all. Is there another veterans' organization who will advocate for these combat vets?

 

 
Posted By Doug Nelson at 10:58 AM
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14 Apr 2008
Send an emailDoug Nelson - View my profile
David, No, I was not aware of that. The trick is making the VA aware of it. This puts OIF/OEF vets in the same fix as 'Nam vets; have been in combat, but too little paperwork to support it. Pass this on:

Guys, try to get copies of your personnel file as well as your medical file. This will place you in a combat unit. Secondly, stay in touch with as many buddies as possible. "Buddy statements" are good evidence in disability claims.
2 Apr 2008
David
Are you aware that, as the war in Iraq becomes more politically incorrect, that the combat action ribbon is being witheld, even from those clearly involved in combat?

My son is in 3/3 Marines, Lima Co. 1st Platoon. Infantry. Just back from a tour of duty. Reasonably quiet the last few months, but very heavy fighting the first few months. They will NOT be awarded the CAR...they assumed that if too many CARs are awarded, it supports the notion that there is still a lot of combat going on, and the situation in Iraq is not geting any better. For whatever reason, marine infantrymen who have seen action in Iraq are denied CAR.
24 Feb 2008
Send an emailButch Kirkman - View my profile
Doug,

A Legislator from Miane, Tom Allen, has introduced Bill H.R. 5448, The Full Faith in Veterans Act of 2008. This Bill will change the current requirement for so called non-conbat vets diagnosed with PTSD to prove an inservice stressor occurred. You can view the Bill on the internet by typing it into your search browser. Please contact everyone you know to contact their legislative representatives to support this Bill. Now we can stop complaining and take some action, as this bill will eliminate the proof of stressor and all the vet needs is a PTSD diagnosis to receive deserved compensation. I have 14, yes 14, VAMC doctors that say I have service connected PTSD. I have been through the VA's Special Inpatient PTSD Unit (SIPU) program. Yet, since I was in the Air Foce and not a day-to-day combat soldier, my stressors were not documented. Thus, no compension according to the current guidlines of CFR 38. To add insult to injury, the Winston-Salem VARO got my records from the NPRC and lost the entire pacjkage before they reviewed it. Now I have no reccords, except I do have the letter stating they had them, but misplaced them. My case is at the CAVC now and I have an attorney. The VA coninues to fight and delay there as well. Best I can tell, all the CAVC usually does is affirm the VA decision or remand it abck to the VA. I have seen only one case where they reversed the VA;s decison. The deck is stacked against the veteran. Our only hope now is this Bill. Anyway, my claim is in its 6th year now, so I am hoping this bill get passed quickly. Let's get in touch with every vet we can to press for this Bill. Hopefully, it will sail through quickly.
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